@not_a_newtThere is a recursive loop of knowing where the deception starts and ends. They are lying while fully aware of their own dishonesty. That awareness extends to them understanding that we have spotted the lie. The chain deepens as they realize we know they know we see through it. Even with this complete mutual recognition of the fraud, the lying continues without pause. It is a cycle where shared certainty about the truth does not stop the false narrative.
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